Hi Steve, I thought Emily Cain's message re housebreaking was so clear & sensible, I asked her if I could suggest it be entered into the archives. She gave me the OK, so I'm hoping you'll agree and include it. > Our three SPs were a cinch to housetrain. Our first SP, Rosey, was > contracted back to her breeder for a litter, and we kept a pup > which was co-owned with that breeder and a brood bitch for that > kennel, but lived with us at all times, so we've raised several > litters of SPs, and each litter, even the winter litter, was to all > intents and purposes housetrained by seven weeks, which is to say, > by seven weeks they all ran to the back door but didn't always > manage to get all the way outside. But, they all had the idea of > peeing/pooping outside, and liked it. However, no dog is ever > completely housetrained until about nine months of age. If a pup > has the idea of housetraining, and the people slip up, and the pup > has to go in the house, not to worry, this is your fault, and you > clean up, and eventually when the pup is about nine months old, the > pup will have the maturity to be responsible for the people > slipping up, and will devise a way, or the people/dog will devise a > way, of compelling you to take the dog out. Timers help the people > not to slip up. If you have children, you can set the timer to > every hour on the hour, and then the pup goes out, and everyone > stands around freezing to death while the pup remembers how to > pee/poop. Be glad you are not standing outside in your flannel > nightie in an Ontario winter. Put on your coat. Yes, I like crates, > but don't use 'em much, when raising a pup. I prefer the timer and > freeze to death method. --Emily Poodle History Project (annotated > bibliography) http://www.poodlehistory.org -- Diane and the Casual Country Poodles, Sadie, Cassie, Angie, Mandy, Pshanel, and Sophie